Bluetooth ANCS don't send ringing alarm clock and countdown timer

Hello everyone, sorry for my ignorance about it, with ANCS I managed to get all the notifications except the alarm that rings and the timer expired, where am I wrong? do they travel on other channels like gatt? if yes can someone help me understand how to receive these 2 information? the alarm goes off and the timer expired?

Thanks in advance to everyone who will help me, Marco.